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  • Lower Demand Won’t Hurt Cubs or Ticket Brokers As Much As You’d Think

    A couple of days ago, Doc Blume wrote an interesting post about the obvious lack of demand for Cubs tickets this year.  There are still tickets available for every game on the schedule, including Opening Day and the Red Sox series.  There are large numbers of tickets available for most of the other games on the schedule.  That is all true, but Doc concludes two things from this:  1) The Cubs ticket revenues are going to suffer and 2) The ticket brokers are going to get killed this year.

    As I've thought more about it, I would have to disagree on both of those conclusions.

    First, the Cubs dynamic pricing in the bleachers could potentially grab the Ricketts an absolute huge pile of money, and they don't have to sell out the bleachers to accomplish it either.  To illustrate the point, I created a scenario using a theoretical dynamic pricing model.  I can not stress this enough. I DO NOT HAVE ANY INFORMATION FROM THE CUBS ABOUT HOW THEIR DYNAMIC PRICING CHANGES ACCORDING TO SALES.  I am only theorizing using examples that I feel are close enough to accurate to illustrate the point.

    I'm assuming the Cubs have 4,000 bleachers seats for sale for each home game.  The renovation in 2006 added ~1,800 seats and I don't think they doubled the capacity, so I'm guesstimating and keeping it fairly conservative.  I'm also assuming that the Cubs jump the price of their bleacher tickets by 10% every time they sell enough at a certain level to jump to the next highest tier.  Again, I don't think that is outrageous, as the Red Sox bleacher seats are currently selling for $140 per seat and that is exactly what it would be if the Cubs jumped the price 8 times at a 10% increase each time since they went on sale.

    So if the Cubs stuck with a flat ticket rate, the potential revenue would break down like this

      Marquee Platinum Gold Silver  Bronze
    # of Games 13 16 26 16 10
    Flat pricing 72 64 55 45 24
    Attendance 4000 4000 4000 4000 4000
       $      3,744,000  $        4,096,000  $        5,720,000  $        2,880,000  $        960,000

    That would come to a total of $17,400,000 for the year.

    Now let's assume that after every 500 tickets are sold, they bump the price up 10% (rounded to the nearest whole dollar). So 500 tickets would sell at the original $72 mark, but then ticket #501-1000 would sell at $79, #1001-1500 would sell at $87, and so on.  That would complicate things a bit, but it would work out to something like this:

        Marquee   Platinum   Gold   Silver   Bronze
    Tier Price Revenue Price Revenue Price Revenue Price Revenue Price Revenue
    500  $      72  $            36,000  $      64  $            32,000  $      55  $            27,500 45  $            22,500 24  $            12,000
    500  $      79  $            39,600  $      70  $            35,200  $      61  $            30,250  $      50  $            24,750  $      26  $            13,200
    500  $      87  $            43,560  $      77  $            38,720  $      67  $            33,275  $      54  $            27,225  $      29  $            14,520
    500  $      96  $            47,916  $      85  $            42,592  $      73  $            36,603  $      60  $            29,948  $      32  $            15,972
    500  $    105  $            52,708  $      94  $            46,851  $      81  $            40,263  $      66  $            32,942  $      35  $            17,569
    500  $    116  $            57,978  $    103  $            51,536  $      89  $            44,289  $      72  $            36,236  $      39  $            19,326
    500  $    128  $            63,776  $    113  $            56,690  $      97  $            48,718  $      80  $            39,860  $      43  $            21,259
    500  $    140  $            70,154  $    125  $            62,359  $    107  $            53,590  $      88  $            43,846  $      47  $            23,385
         $          411,692    $          365,948    $          314,487    $          257,307    $          137,231
         $  5,351,995.63    $  5,855,174.71    $  8,176,659.99    $  4,116,919.72    $  1,372,306.57

    That comes to a total potential revenue of $24,873,057, or more than $7 million more than they would with a flat pricing model.

    Demand is lagging, but it is most lagging in the lower level Silver and Bronze games, but those were the low revenue games anyway. The Cubs are now able to charge $140 face value for a seat 400 feet away from home plate.  They are making up for the lost revenue from the crappy games by charging premium prices for the games they know will sell no matter what.

    Think about it, for every ticket they currently sell at $140 for the Red Sox (and eventually the White Sox, Cardinals, etc.), that extra $68 on top of what they would have charged last year makes up for almost 3 full unsold tickets at the Bronze level.

     I'm actually a little shocked the top of the scale is only $140, but it is only the first year trying this.  If they bump the price after every 400 seats (setting the top of the scale at $170 per ticket), they can get over $27 milion in potential revenue.

    So between selling ~26,000 seats per game to season ticket holders (guaranteeing a floor of about 2.1 million for total attendance) and then making a money grab for the most popular games in the bleachers, the Ricketts can deal with a decrease in actual attendance a heck of a lot better than they could with a flat pricing model.  My guess is that their revenue will stay relatively flat from last year even if they fall short of 3 million fans.  Even if people aren't tripping over themselves to get at tickets, I'm guessing the Marquee and Platinum levels will sell out or come awfully close.

    But can't people get tickets from scalpers for cheaper than face?  Maybe, but the tickets on the secondary market won't be as plentiful this year.  I think part of the reason we are saying such lagging pre-sales is that the scalpers aren't sucking up the tickets like they normally do.  Why would they?  Why get stuck with all that merchandise again?  If you sell t-shirts and got stuck with 1,000 t-shirts last year, why would you buy the same amount of t-shirts to sell in a year where you KNOW the demand won't improve?

    Ticket brokers and scalpers aren't stupid.  In fact they understood the market for Cubs tickets a hell of a lot sooner than the Cubs themselves did.  I'm sure they have a stash that they have purchased from season ticket holders looking to dump off their tickets now for whatever they can get for fear that later in the season they won't be worth the paper they are printed on.  But I'd bet my life they have kept the capital invested in Cubs tickets to a minimum.

    So the scalpers will make some money by still underselling the Cubs prices at the ticket windows, but the Cubs don't care because they got full price for the tickets when the season ticket holders bought them.  Meanwhile they are making up revenue by selling the actual games with high demand for absolutely ridiculous prices.  The people footing the bill for all of this remains the season ticket holders and the people who can't help themselves from paying exhorbitant prices to leer at scantily clad young women while the Cubs get annihilated by premium opponents.

    Like I've said before, that wait list and the mythology of the bleachers gives the Cubs tremendous license to pull this shit while fielding an inferior team.  That is how they can preach patience and let the Superfriends enact a longer range building plan than most teams would be able to.

     

    40 Responses to “Lower Demand Won’t Hurt Cubs or Ticket Brokers As Much As You’d Think”

    1. Aisle424 1 Aisle424 says:

      Sorry about the premature post, Mish. I published before it was done and had to unpublish it.

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    2. Mish 2 Mish says:

      Aisle424 wrote:

      Sorry about the premature

      I’m sure not the first time you’ve said this. (dying laughing)

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    3. Aisle424 3 Aisle424 says:

      Bazinga.

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    4. Rice Cube 4 Rice Cube says:

      Do you really think they can use this plan to keep revenue steady for the 3-5 years the Superfriends need to fix the team? I guess incremental improvement (70 wins this year, maybe, then 75 next, then 79 the next etc) would be encouraging and could help with attendance and sales, but that still seems like a tall order to fill.

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    5. Aisle424 5 Aisle424 says:

      @ Rice Cube:

      I think it will keep the bleeding to a minimum. Like I’ve said repeatedly. The Cubs sell over 2.1 million tickets every year before they sell a single 9-pack, 6-pack, or single game ticket. The Royals and Pirates would kill for that kind of guarantee every year.

      Remember, the payroll is also going down so they don’t need all that revenue to maintain the same cash flow.

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    6. Rice Cube 6 Rice Cube says:

      I forgot to mention that if they were really on board with such a plan, the Ricketts probably have some kind of reserve fund or similar to tide themselves over while the MLB team continues to suck but the minor league pipeline that they (and we) hope to build manifests itself. At least I think that’s what a smart businessperson would do.

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    7. Aisle424 7 Aisle424 says:

      I don’t think they have a reserve. If they have excess money laying around somewhere, they should be paying down the debt with it.

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    8. Rice Cube 8 Rice Cube says:

      @ Aisle424:
      That’s probably the smartest thing to do, if the interest is as bad as I think it is from what you and others have reported. At the same time, I’d be surprised if they didn’t have some kind of emergency fund in place…the Ricketts are financial gurus and one of the main lessons in financial planning is to always have an emergency fund.

      I think a more accurate thing to say is that they have a cushion of both time and revenue (with or without a disaster fund) that they could use to get their shit together, which I believe you have already stated in this post.

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    9. Aisle424 9 Aisle424 says:

      @ Rice Cube:

      If it came to it, they could sell the building across from Wrigley or the McDonald’s lot if they needed cash fast. You don’t need to have actual cash as long as you have assets you can liquidate quickly. Plus, I’d bet Papa Joe Ricketts is their emergency reserve if they need it.

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    10. mb21 10 mb21 says:

      Great post, 424.

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    11. WaLi 11 WaLi says:

      Berselius wrote:

      Dan Bernstein @dan_bernstein A #Bears source I trust believes they had no idea about the Marshall incident before the trade. Completely pantsed.14 Mar 12 ReplyRetweetFavorite

      Aisle424 wrote:

      Rice Cube wrote:
      What incident? I guess I should google that for me.
      Marshall allegedly punched a woman in the face this past weekend. From what I’ve heard, his explanation is that he wasn’t trying to punch her, he was trying to punch another dude.
      This is all extremely sketchy information that I’ve pieced together from chatter on the radio. So the Google machine is probably your friend here.

      I completely thought this was a joke. I thought Bernsein meant that no one knew that Marshall was going to be traded (the trade being the incident). RC didn’t know what happened with Marshall. And then Aisley made fun of RC by making up some bullshit story that couldn’t be true since RC didn’t just google it.

      Then I checked my phone and was bombarded with messages about Marshall punching someone. sigh..

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    12. Aisle424 12 Aisle424 says:

      (dying laughing)
      (dying laughing)

      I couldn’t make that shit up.

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    13. mb21 13 mb21 says:

      Apparently Roy Halladay topped out at 89 mph yesterday. Things haven’t been going well for him so far.

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    14. Mucker 14 Mucker says:

      mb21 wrote:

      Apparently Roy Halladay topped out at 89 mph yesterday. Things haven’t been going well for him so far.

      He’s put a lot of mileage on that arm. I wonder if he’s starting to lose his arm strength. He’s what, 35?

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    15. Rice Cube 15 Rice Cube says:

      RC’s alma mater —> sucks at basketball

      Bracket still technically not busted though (dying laughing)

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    16. josh 16 josh says:

      @ Mucker:
      He’ll be 35 in May. His hobbies include long walks on the beach and candlelit dinners.

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    17. Rice Cube 18 Rice Cube says:

      @ mb21:
      I’d thought the bat always needs to be symmetrical but the MLB rules actually allow this. That’s pretty cool.

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    18. Rice Cube 19 Rice Cube says:

      BN seems to think there’s a real possibility the Cubs’ A-team could switch from Peoria to South Bend.

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    19. Aisle424 20 Aisle424 says:

      Rice Cube wrote:

      BN seems to think there’s a real possibility the Cubs’ A-team could switch from Peoria to South Bend.

      That would be sweet. I might actually drive to check out a few games if that happened.

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    20. mb21 21 mb21 says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      Wouldn’t be surprising. Those teams switch locations fairly often. IIRC, the Cubs were in Peoria throughout the late 90s and then moved their Low A team to Lansing (Steve Stone would always talk about how the Lansing Lugnuts was his favorite team name) and then about 5 years ago they moved back to Peoria. A few years ago the AA team was the West Tennessee Diamond Jaxx (probably my favorite team name) and now they’re the Tennessee Smokies. Not sure which organization took over for the DJaxx team.

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    21. mb21 22 mb21 says:

      When I lived in Oregon the Cubs were in Eugene (Eugene Cubs). As far as I know those are the only Cubs minor league teams to have changed names/locations over the last decade. I’m guessing that’s much less than the average team.

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    22. mb21 23 mb21 says:

      Eugene Emeralds.

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    23. josh 24 josh says:

      @ mb21:
      That’s a really good idea. It’s almost obvious when you stop to think about it.

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    24. mb21 25 mb21 says:

      Search phrase of the day: obstructed view とは

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    25. josh 26 josh says:

      @ josh:
      The only problem I can see is bat shelf life, since you’re not going to be able to wear the bat down evenly around the barrel. The bats I’ve owned always recommend rotating the bat so you don’t get a dead spot from hitting the same place every time.

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    26. Rice Cube 27 Rice Cube says:

      @ mb21:
      Your blog is moving back to Japan to save face?

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    27. Rice Cube 28 Rice Cube says:

      @ josh:
      I wonder if there is a way to compromise, so that it’s not totally asymmetrical but still has the basic axe handle shape. That way you can rotate between two spots instead of concentrating all the contact points on one spot due to the restrictions of an asymmetrical handle.

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    28. Rice Cube 30 Rice Cube says:

      Does anyone know if the March Madness streams are still free or if we have to start paying?

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    29. mb21 31 mb21 says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      We’re nearly a year old so we’re launching in Japan next month.

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    30. mb21 32 mb21 says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      I don’t know, but I’ll tell you the final scores for $1 per game.

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    31. Rice Cube 33 Rice Cube says:

      @ mb21:
      Good ruck with your discledited brog.

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    32. Berselius 34 Berselius says:

      @ Rice Cube:

      It’s $$ this year RC

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    33. Aisle424 35 Aisle424 says:

      Berselius wrote:

      It’s $$ this year RC

      $3.99

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    34. Aisle424 36 Aisle424 says:

      Rice Cube wrote:

      Good ruck with your discledited brog.

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    35. mb21 37 mb21 says:

      I don’t know when this super google internet thingy is going to be completed in Kansas City, but I am looking forward to testing it out. As far as I’m concerned, download times on the internet can’t be fast enough.

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    36. mb21 38 mb21 says:

      Royals ————> still stupid

      They just signed the most exciting player in baseball to a 4-year extension worth $10 million. Can you imagine how exciting Escobar would be if he was any good?

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    37. 40 AndCounting says:

      There goes Aisley again, posting meaningful business-related information and turning the comments section into a board meeting. Tickets aren’t sold on a spreadsheet!

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