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  • It Turns Out Chet Coppock Still Exists and He Doesn’t Like Theo

    Sometimes I just can't help myself. I'm a weak man. I admit it. I know I shouldn't always order my cheeseburger with bacon on it, but I do. I know I could do just as well with a single scoop of ice cream, but go ahead and eat it straight out of the container and then wonder how the container is suddenly empty. But the worst thing that happens to me in those instances is that I may someday end up with pain radiating into my arms and/or daily insulin shots.

    But that is nothing compared to the almost certain eye and brain cancer I now have from watching a video link I happened to notice on Twitter featuring a man who is so bloviatingly pompous for no good reason, I have to assume he is a one-dimensional character that has escaped from the confines of a poorly written sitcom on TBS.

    I don't know why I clicked on it. I knew I shouldn't have, but as I said, I'm a weak man and I ended up watching the corpse of Chet Coppock take time from his busy schedule of being unemployed and inhabiting what appears to be a junior high school gymnasium to mock Theo Epstein. Look at this fucking asshat:

    He looks like he is sustaining himself by somehow managing to capture both Mike North and Steve Rosenbloom and storing them in his jowls for later consumption.

    Chet is apparently the only person still reading the Sun-Times sports section and he was none too happy about a story he read by Toni Ginetti where Theo shared a bit of truth about the Cubs chances next season. Here's a quote from Theo that got Chet particularly riled up:

    “We’re not trying to hide the ball. We’re trying to be honest with [the fans]. There might be some tough things we have to tell them along the way. There might be another trade deadline in our future where we trade away about 40 percent of a really good rotation. You do that because there will be a day when you acquire two starting pitchers at the deadline to cement your club."

    Personally, I find the honesty refreshing. The Cubs are finally taking the time to build an actual organization and that is going to mean a few decisions that are painful in the short term. I'm cool with that. Just about every halfway intelligent Cubs fan understands it. Even a lot of the dumber ones get it to a point. Shit, even BCB hasn't given up on Theo yet and that's about as low a baseball IQ as you're going to find among people literate enough to use the internet. But Chet is fired up and if I had to listen to the rambling incoherent nonsense, I'm going to put it here so we can all suffer together:

    Theo, Public Relations 101. Do you realize what your fans have gone through this year? During the first year of your administration? What’s to be cheerful about regarding the Cubs right now besides the possibility that Jeff Samardzija might be a legitimate #2 starter… he’ll never be a #1 starter… and in my opinion, Alfonso Soriano, left for dead, might be worthy of consideration as National League Comeback Player of the year.

    Theo, you have to realize something. This ballclub has now gone 104 years without a sniff of a winner’s World Series check. Why would you tell your fans that you might once again have a rotation that’s uh… bordering on being halfway decent, but you’ll have to trade 40% of it because you think you’re going to improve the ballclub?

    Theo, you know what? Start sipping some kool-aid and start conveying some joy at the Friendly Confines. This morning, I heard radio stations saturated with spots advertising the availability of tickets for Cubs baseball. You know what, Theo? You’ve had a year. The grace period is over. The party is over. Now the job begins. Now, Theo, you will be judged. And I gotta tell you… I can hardly wait for the Cubs Convention. I want to see just how rough and just how tough the Cubs fans are on the wunderkind from Boston.

     

    What the fuck, Theo? YOU'VE HAD A YEAR! HOW COME YOU HAVEN'T COMPLETELY REVERSED THE FORTUNES OF A TEAM THAT THE WRIGLEY FAMILY AND THE TRIBUNE COMPANY SPENT 104 YEARS FUCKING UP? I mean you have been on the job for 335 whole days! That's over 8,000 hours! Almost 500,000 minutes! I mean, you have had almost 30,000,000 seconds to turn this shit around already. What have you been doing? 

    I like how Chet is such a fucking dumbass that he can't come up with anything positive Theo has done besides getting lucky with Samardzija and Soriano.  Gee Chet, what else have Theo and Jed done that you might have missed while you were busy building a new website that looks hilariously like Snoozebox.com?  They locked up a franchise shortstop on a ludicrously team-friendly deal that will be a damn steal if Castro evolves as a player even a little bit. They traded an injury-prone reliever for a middle-of-the-order, good fielding first baseman.  They traded aging veterans for prospects that are ranked in the Top 100 of all of baseball. He's started the process of cleaning out the people in baseball operations that contributed to the problems under Hendry in a massive effort to achieve a culture change within the historically stodgy and stagnant organization.  Chet is not impressed.

    Chet, on the other hand, has basically accomplished recently what we've accomplished here at OV as a hobby (except we used correctly spelled words on our website).  Well done, buddy.

    I'd like to know what Chet would've done in Theo's place?  He seems to be offended by trading away veteran players that have no future with the team just because they seem to be pitching well at the moment. Maybe Chet really liked Dempster's Harry Caray impression and dick jokes and is having trouble adjusting to life without them.  He seems like the kind of person who would, and by that I mean he's retarded.

    Maybe Chet has magic powers that could turn Soriano into Bryce Harper? Though that seems unlikely since I'd think he would use his magic to not look like Karl Rove and Rainn Wilson's illegitimate love child.

    This is the sort of bullshit from people who pass themselves off as experts that pisses me off to no end and I fucking knew I would regret clicking his fucking link. But the little troll won and I'll never get that three minutes back of my life, and neither will you folks who have bothered to read this. I do apologize for shining a light into a corner of the internet that should probably be left in the dark.

    But I feel a little better now and I can go back to only dimly being aware that Chet Coppock even exists anymore. The party is over, Chet.

    194 Responses to “It Turns Out Chet Coppock Still Exists and He Doesn’t Like Theo”

    1. WaLi 1 WaLi says:

      tldr, just looked at pictures and laughed.

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    2. josh 2 josh says:

      Hilarious.

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    3. Rice Cube 3 Rice Cube says:

      @ josh:
      Good luck with your blog.

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    4. Rice Cube 4 Rice Cube says:

      But srsly, thanks for clicking that link so we don’t have to.

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    5. josh 5 josh says:

      Pat: “It’s been an errorless game”

      Well, I guess technically that’s true.

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    6. Mish 6 Mish says:

      I think he had a similar rant midseason that I linked to here that was every bit as incoherent and ass-numbingly dumb. Basically same gist of it. It’s not Chet that worries me persay, but likely the millions of Cubs fans who might feel this way.

      And also, Theo comments about rebuilding and taking time were some of the best moments of this season for me. I felt like I was not being talked down to or patronized by a rebuilding team trying to sell me snake oil.

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    7. josh 8 josh says:

      Is this someone you guys were already aware of? I’ve never heard of him.

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    8. Rizzo the Rat 10 Rizzo the Rat says:

      Unfortunately, not all those gifs are from Chuck Jones cartoons. Oh well. Happy 100th birthday, Chuck.

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    9. Mish 11 Mish says:

      @ josh:
      He’s been doing sports radio in Chicago for a long time. I heard him when I was a kid, and even up to about 5-6 years ago (before I shunned all non-Dan Bernstein sports radio).

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    10. josh 12 josh says:

      Rob Schneider, huh? He’s probably my least favorite celebrity of all time.

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    11. josh 13 josh says:

      @ Mish:
      5-6 years ago would be right about the time I started listening to Chicago sports radio, so there you go.

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    12. Aisle424 14 Aisle424 says:

      @ josh:
      @ Mish:
      He got caught up in that Webio scam and has basically been job hopping and unemployed since.

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    13. josh 15 josh says:

      Some guy is audibly yelling at Rizzo ‘Keep your hands up! C’mon you’re not Babe Ruth, get your hands up!”

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    14. josh 16 josh says:

      @ josh:
      Wait, that’s not you, is it Aisely?

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    15. josh 17 josh says:

      @ Aisle424:
      I got nothing.

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    16. Mish 18 Mish says:

      @ josh:
      He was awesome in “The Stapler.”

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    17. josh 19 josh says:

      @ Mish:
      Rated PG-13!

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    18. SVB 20 SVB says:

      josh wrote:

      Pat: “Barney, gloving it near the hole.”

      I thought they were supposed to be playing baseball

      Barney is riding the starting pitchers too. F7 taught him how.

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    19. Rizzo the Rat 21 Rizzo the Rat says:

      Barney!

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    20. josh 22 josh says:

      The Fuck?

      D-Barn with a homer.

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    21. josh 23 josh says:

      Pat and Keith were just hoping he could get on for Rizzo. (dying laughing)

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    22. Suburban kid 24 Suburban kid says:

      @ josh:
      I prefer D’barn.

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    23. Rizzo the Rat 25 Rizzo the Rat says:

      Barney still has all his career homers (9) at Wrigley Field.

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    24. josh 26 josh says:

      Rizzo just saved Barney from an error.

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    25. Aisle424 27 Aisle424 says:

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    26. josh 28 josh says:

      @ Aisle424:
      Oh humanity. How ambivalent I am about your eventual destruction.

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    27. Aisle424 29 Aisle424 says:

      It’s like all St. Louis fans share Chet Coppock’s brain.

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    28. Rice Cube 30 Rice Cube says:

      They should make people take a test before they are allowed to use the internet…

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    29. SVB 31 SVB says:

      I don’t think I’m doing very well in the “the Rest of the Crappy Season” contest. :(

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    30. Rizzo the Rat 32 Rizzo the Rat says:

      Wow.

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    31. Rice Cube 33 Rice Cube says:

      Cubs win!

      Cubs will likely lose the #2 pick now.

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    32. Rice Cube 35 Rice Cube says:

      @ Mish:
      (dying laughing)

      Aisley got censored.

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    33. Aisle424 36 Aisle424 says:


      (dying laughing)
      (dying laughing)
      (dying laughing)

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    34. Rice Cube 37 Rice Cube says:

      @ Aisle424:
      Is that Al?

      Gotta swap it out for the Al on the cell phone.

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    35. Aisle424 38 Aisle424 says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      That is Alvin. Clearly enjoying himself. What a miserable little man he is.

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    36. Rice Cube 39 Rice Cube says:

      @ Aisle424:
      I don’t understand why he’s so sad unless he just realized that the Cubs might inch above Colorado and lose the #2 pick. Time to root for the Rockies…

      But come on, the Cubs just got an improbably blast from Darwin Barney to send the game to extras and walked off with two outs. Gotta smile about it, right?

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    37. Aisle424 40 Aisle424 says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      He probably missed marking down a pitch in his scorecardr while they posed or something. He is one of the most humorless, self-important people ever.

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    38. Rice Cube 41 Rice Cube says:

      @ Aisle424:
      Or perhaps he’s displeased that there are people invading his personal space. The perils of the bleachers!

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    39. Mish 42 Mish says:

      I’m going out to drink/be Batman; I expect a shitload of that photo being shopped into hilarity upon my return.

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    40. SVB 43 SVB says:

      D’Barn closes door on Carpenter comeback.

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    41. 44 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Wow. MT @sberthiaumeespn: James Shields K’d 3 of first 5 Jays tonight giving Tampa Bay 1,267 Ks this season, most by a staff in AL history.— keithlaw (@keithlaw) September 21, 2012

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    42. GBTS 45 GBTS says:

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    43. Rodrigo Ramirez 46 Rodrigo Ramirez says:

      Wasn’t it Chet Coppack who was assaulted in the parking lot at the United Center? He was beat fairly bad if I recall correctly. And it’s years later that I can finally say he might have deserved it. Not that I condone physical violence or anything.

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    44. Rizzo the Rat 47 Rizzo the Rat says:

      http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=18429
      Short version: they changed the rules of the batting title to prevent Melky from qualifying. Wow.

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    45. 48 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Also, Aisley: Well fucking done, sir. I am in tears laughing

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    46. Rice Cube 49 Rice Cube says:

      @ Rizzo the Rat:

      The way I understood it, Bud Selig wasn’t going to bother with it until Melky Cabrera (either on his own or coerced) decided to just take his name out of the running. It was a bit of a crock though for them to kvetch about the rules for an otherwise meaningless “title”.

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    47. uncle dave 50 uncle dave says:

      Didn’t Chet Coppock do some ads with MJ for Chevy way back when?

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    48. Aisle424 51 Aisle424 says:

      @ uncle dave:
      That’s what his website says.

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    49. 52 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      My enduring memory of Chet Coppock is doing those horrid NFL betting scam commercials in a terrible purple suit.

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    50. 53 Mercurial Outfielder says:

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    51. 55 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Badass: http://t.co/VD52e3Fg

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    52. SVB 59 SVB says:

      @ GW:
      Player development in the Pirates Instructional League:

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    53. 60 cwolf says:

      josh wrote:

      Another aside: http://www.obstructedview.net/aside/interview-2.html

      (dying laughing) . Those are fantastic, Josh.

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    54. SVB 61 SVB says:

      Hazing required to join the OV staff:

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    55. Rice Cube 62 Rice Cube says:

      For old times’ sake, as the Cubs lose their grip on the #2 pick:

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    56. Rice Cube 63 Rice Cube says:

      WTF (dying laughing)

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    57. josh 64 josh says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      That play lasted at least 50 Altuves.

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    58. josh 65 josh says:

      @ SVB:
      Is it learning how to properly post pictures?

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    59. josh 66 josh says:

      @ cwolf:
      Cool. Glad everyone liked them. Sometimes I think something will be funny and no one gets it.

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    60. SVB 68 SVB says:

      @ josh:
      in reference to the links GW posted.

      By the way, the Link button here works much better than the URL button in the forum.

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    61. 69 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      I’m pretty sure Ozzie wants to get fired: http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/fl-miami-marlins-0922-20120922,0,3167478.story

      Not that I can blame him, he works for a massive piece of shit.

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    62. josh 70 josh says:

      @ Aisle424:
      Is Al in this picture, or is he photobombing?

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    63. josh 71 josh says:

      @ SVB:
      Gotcha.

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    64. josh 72 josh says:

      I just watched the clip (OP). His reading of the teleprompter is really, really shitty. He’s pausing at the end of every line break. It’s like listening to a stroke patient.

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    65. mb21 73 mb21 says:

      Great job on Coppock, 424.

      Same to Josh for the comics.

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    66. mb21 74 mb21 says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      Ozzie is going to have a hard time finding a job at this point.

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    67. 75 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ mb21:

      Nah. Valentine is just as big an asshole and he gets work. Ozzie will find a spot, might have to do TV for a year or two, or take a minor league spot (they’ll hire him just as a gimmick), but he’s not done managing in MLB.

      That Florida job is poison, though.

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    68. 76 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Ok, who told Len his nerd card got revoked:

      Cabrera decision opens dangerous can o worms. Look, he played 113g, hit 346, tested positive, got suspended. Can’t erase those things. IMHO.— Len Kasper (@LenKasper) September 22, 2012

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    69. Berselius 78 Berselius says:

      I’m off to Japan to save face. Berselius out, fuckfaces!

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    70. mb21 79 mb21 says:

      @ Berselius:
      Have fun.

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    71. Rizzo the Rat 80 Rizzo the Rat says:

      Wow, the Pirates are now 74-76.

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    72. 81 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Rizzo the Rat:
      Sounds like they need some more time in the Combat Hits box.

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    73. Berselius 83 Berselius says:

      @ mb21:

      If there isn’t a tsunami/nuclear meltdown, I’ll call it a win

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    74. mb21 84 mb21 says:

      @ Berselius:
      That’s right. You were unable to save face last time because the tsunami.

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    75. mb21 85 mb21 says:

      I have to admit, I really couldn’t care less that MLB changed some rule about the batting champion. That’s such an outdated stat I don’t even know why they have a batting champ anymore. As for other awards, they’re fun to talk about, but I don’t really care about them either.

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    76. mb21 86 mb21 says:

      @ Rizzo the Rat:
      I don’t know why I’m glad to see them under .500, but I just am.

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    77. Rizzo the Rat 87 Rizzo the Rat says:

      @ mb21:
      It just seems right. Order has been restored.

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    78. Rizzo the Rat 88 Rizzo the Rat says:

      It’s like when some physicist claims to have discovered something that violates the Theory of Relativity or something, only to have the study refuted a few weeks later. Breathe a sigh of relief. The world makes sense again.

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    79. SVB 89 SVB says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      The most amazing thing in this article is the revelation that someone in Rick Santorum’s employ was enlightened enough to set up two gay guys.

      I think we’ll have a male pro athlete come out within 2 years. Possibly as soon as the end of October.

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    80. 90 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ mb21:
      THe only important takeaway from it IMO is what you’ve been saying all along: MLB doesn’t give a fuck about PEDs; they only care about who hold titles and records.

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    81. 91 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ SVB:

      In a major sport (NFL, MLB, NBA)? I’d be shocked. I think it will be at least a decade before an active player in a major sport comes out, maybe longer before it’s a star in major sport. I think we’ll see more and more come out post-retirement, but I think we’re still a long way off from an active player in major sport come out. We’ll have stars come out in European soccer before we do in major American sports, and homophbia among players there is rampant. I think it has little to do with the locker room , though, where I think most would be accepted as teammates, but the homophobic abuse from fans of an out and proud player would be devastating. Locker rooms get blamed too much, I think; fear of fan abuse keeps far more players in the closet, IMO.

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    82. mb21 92 mb21 says:

      Just noticed the tags (dying laughing)

      Tags: can you believe this shit, Chet coppock sucks, I mean seriously, what the fucking fuck is this shit?

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    83. mb21 93 mb21 says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      Agreed, but we already knew that. (dying laughing)

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    84. mb21 94 mb21 says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      I think it’s a combination, but Yunel Escobar kind of gives us a glimpse into how well a clubhouse would receive an openly gay teammate.

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    85. 95 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      StL gameplan: hit it to Vitters

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    86. mb21 96 mb21 says:

      Mercurial Outfielder wrote:

      Opposing team gameplan: hit it to Vitters

      (dying laughing)

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    87. 97 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ mb21:
      It’s a lot easier to get 25-30 people to get over themselves and embrace their teammate than it is to get 40K not to start yelling homophobic slurs. That’s all I’m saying.

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    88. Suburban kid 98 Suburban kid says:

      You know it’s 2012 when you turn on the Cubs game and on the very first pitch you see they walk in a run for the Cardinals.

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    89. mb21 99 mb21 says:

      Vitters is making an error about once every 8 plays. According to Fangraphs, he’s had 42 balls hit in his zone and fielded only 27 of them (he has 2 out of zone plays). Among 3B with 100 innings or more, his RZR (plays/balls in zone) he ranks 11th worse (Joe Mather is 9th worst).

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    90. mb21 100 mb21 says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      Good point. You’re right about that for sure.

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    91. 101 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ mb21:
      You could wallpaper your house the handwringing articles from the Cubs’ beat guys if Castro had that same error rate.

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    92. 102 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ mb21:
      And honestly, I’d rather have one teammate I knew hated me because of my sexual preference than have to face the hate of several thousand as I’m trying to do my job.

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    93. Rice Cube 103 Rice Cube says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      I’d like to think that humanity has progressed enough to not take that level of hate in such a public setting. But then I realize how deluded I am.

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    94. mb21 104 mb21 says:

      2013 Chicago Cubs number 2 starter: Travis Wood

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    95. 105 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ mb21:
      If MacPhail were still in charge, you know they’d change his number to 34 to just see if anyone noticed.

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    96. 106 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Next year, instead of a glove, Vitters will just carry a meat cleaver out to 3B with him.

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    97. Rizzo the Rat 107 Rizzo the Rat says:

      @ mb21:
      Is that the slogan for next year? If so, that’s the most devastating and hilarious one I’ve heard yet.

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    98. Rice Cube 108 Rice Cube says:

      @ mb21:
      At least he can hit. Sort of.

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    99. Rizzo the Rat 109 Rizzo the Rat says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      He might as well use that as a bat, as well.

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    100. Rice Cube 110 Rice Cube says:

      I like the snap on Wainwright’s curveball.

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    101. Rice Cube 111 Rice Cube says:

      Travis Wood seems like a good baserunner.

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    102. mb21 112 mb21 says:

      @ Rizzo the Rat:
      (dying laughing)

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    103. mb21 113 mb21 says:

      Remember the other day when I wrote that Vitters had performed worse than anyone could have imaged? Yeah, that was bullshit. I hadn’t looked at Vitters wRC+ for awhile and it’s come as a surprise that he’s lowered his -7 wRC+ to -11.

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    104. 114 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Rizzo the Rat:
      Under the Melky Proviso, MLB will allow Vitters to use a cricket bat to level the playing field.

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    105. 115 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      The Wrigley rooftops are fucking garish eyesores now.

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    106. mb21 116 mb21 says:

      -12: the up to date wRC+ of Josh Vitters.

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    107. 117 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Jumbotrons would ruin the look and feel of the park, but 3,000 yards of aluminum and plastic behind the scoreboard hearken back to the days of yore.

      /Wrigley Fan logic

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    108. mb21 118 mb21 says:

      70 or more PA

      Josh Vitters (92 PA): -12 wRC+
      Jack Wilson (77) -3
      Chris Coghlan (105): -2
      Brian Roberts (74): 8

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    109. mb21 119 mb21 says:

      21 pitchers with 50 or more PA have a -12 wRC+ or better (only Dickey is as low as -12) and only 25 are worse.

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    110. 120 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ mb21:

      The Cubs should petition MLB to rework the rules so Vitters is hitting well.

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    111. mb21 121 mb21 says:

      Using Vitters current wRC+ and comparing it to 2011 stats for those who had 90 or more PA, only Roy Halladay was worse.

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    112. mb21 122 mb21 says:

      (dying laughing) only Roy Halladay (90 or more PA) was worse than Vitters current wRC+ in 2010.

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    113. mb21 123 mb21 says:

      Roy Halladay: the only hitter worse than Josh Vitters

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    114. mb21 124 mb21 says:

      Nobody had a -12 or lower wRC+ in 2009 (90 or more PA from this point forward)

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    115. mb21 125 mb21 says:

      Or 2008 or 2007

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    116. mb21 126 mb21 says:

      Bronson Arroyo: slightly worse at the plate in 2006 than Vitters has been in 2012

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    117. mb21 127 mb21 says:

      Since 2000, here is the complete list of position players with 90 or more PA who had a lower wRC+ than Josh Vitters’ current -12:

      Here’s the entire list including pitchers: Roy Halladay (twice), Bronson Arroyo, Chris Carpenter, Randy Johnson (twice) and Curt Schilling

      That is it!

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    118. GW 128 GW says:

      Based on his comps, I’m projecting Vitters as a future ace.

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    119. 129 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Small sample size/correlation=causation alert! Since being dropped in the order in mid August, Starlin Castro has hit .330/.388/.491, good for a .878 OPS, with 8 BB and 12 K in 116 PA.

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    120. mb21 130 mb21 says:

      @ GW:
      He and Samardzija will team for one of the best 1-2 punches any rotation has ever seen.

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    121. Rizzo the Rat 131 Rizzo the Rat says:

      So, how is Josh Vitters doing offensively? Good?

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    122. Jed Jam Band 132 Jed Jam Band says:

      Oh, man, George Lopez cannot sing. Somebody gag the man. Just make it stop. Oh, wait, it’s over.

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    123. Jed Jam Band 133 Jed Jam Band says:

      @ Rizzo the Rat:

      MVP, man, MVP.

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    124. mb21 134 mb21 says:

      1990-1999, 90 or more PA

      1990: Ramon Martinez, Frank Viola, Jose Lima
      1992: Terry Mulholland
      1993: Curt Schilling, Josh Burckett, Greg Maddux
      1997: Curt Schilling
      1998: Curt Schilling
      1999: Kevin Brown, Jose Lima, Randy Johnson

      Curt Schilling was not good at hitting.

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    125. mb21 135 mb21 says:

      Josh Vitters wRC+-ometer: -13

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    126. 136 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Castro’s K:BB by month:

      March/April: 3 BB, 14 K
      May: 2 BB, 20 K
      June: 5 BB, 21 K
      July: 6 BB, 14 K
      August: 11 BB, 19 K
      September: 5 BB, 7 K

      Whomever says this kid isn’t working and learning is fucking lying.

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    127. mb21 137 mb21 says:

      1998 Mike Laga: the last position player with 90 or more PA to have a worse wRC+ than Josh Vitters in 2012.

      Laga’s wRC+ was -21. There are 3 other position players between 1980 and 1989 who were lower than Vitters.

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    128. Rice Cube 138 Rice Cube says:

      I think Bob Brenly just declared war on Cardinals fans.

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    129. Suburban kid 139 Suburban kid says:

      Whoever uses whomever as a subject is fucking up their grammar.

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    130. 140 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Holy shit, what a pitch.

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    131. Suburban kid 141 Suburban kid says:

      @ Suburban kid:
      You’re a dick.

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    132. 142 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Suburban kid:
      I’m part of the 47% percent so I refuse to take responsibility for that error.

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    133. 144 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      What did he say? I have the Cardinals feed for some reason.

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    134. mb21 145 mb21 says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      FWIW, he walked 10 times and struckout 8 times last September. I’m not sure what the monthly splits here really tell us. Is it improvement? I don’t know and I definitely wouldn’t bet any money on it being actual improvement (this is true for any player’s month to month stats).

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    135. Rice Cube 146 Rice Cube says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      Something to the tune of “you can always tell when the Cardinals are in town by all the tractors parked outside”.

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    136. 147 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ mb21:

      Steady improvement since May, though, and marked improvement since dropping down. I think it at least shows he’s working, but I agree that I need to be wary about drawing too many conclusions here.

      Given his improvements on defense, as well, though I think it is safe to say that he has an undeserved rep as a unteachable player.

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    137. 148 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Shift saved a run there.

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    138. 149 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      That was a strike.

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    139. Rice Cube 150 Rice Cube says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      So was that (dying laughing)

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    140. Jed Jam Band 151 Jed Jam Band says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:

      I can just hear Jay Jaffe now. “Let the robots call the game!”

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    141. 152 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Marmol will have to face Beltran and Holliday

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    142. Rice Cube 153 Rice Cube says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      …and probably Craig, Molina and Freese.

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    143. mb21 154 mb21 says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      We don’t know if his defense has really improved though either. DRS shows a considerable improvement while UZR shows a slight improvement (still below average), but it takes several years of defensive data. Like MGL has said before, take the current season and then heavily regress toward it the career average.

      Personally, I think whatever improvements he’s made this year has only been age-related improvements (get better as you get older until a certain point of course).

      Other than a small improvement in his power numbers (ISO improved by about 20 points), the numbers are very much the same as last season. He’s still walking in only 5% of his plate appearances and has expanded his zone this year more than ever.

      I’m very curious to see how he’s going to perform over the next couple seasons. If he continues to make small improvements with his power it could lead to a significant improvement overall (more walks). We’d expect his defense to improve somewhat over the next few years. It’s going to be interesting.

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    144. WaLi 156 WaLi says:

      Hey MO, I’m making beer and I completely overshot my mash temp (162 instead of 152). Am I fucked?

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    145. 157 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ mb21:

      I think that’s fair. But the improvements, however marginal, are there.

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    146. Rizzo the Rat 158 Rizzo the Rat says:

      Castro’s gradual improvement over the last 2+ years has been just about the only thing about this team holding my interest.

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    147. Rice Cube 159 Rice Cube says:

      I guess Marmol killed Molina. That sucks.

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    148. 160 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      Molina is so out of shape he twisted his ankle trying to move away from an inside pitch. Totally his fault.

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    149. Rice Cube 161 Rice Cube says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      I thought he had one of them trendy oblique injuries, didn’t get to see a replay.

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    150. 162 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Tie game in the 9th, Matheny pulls Holliday for a PR. Doubt the smartest fans in baseball will notice.

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    151. mb21 163 mb21 says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      They’re still too pissed off at Salas to even notice there’s a game on.

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    152. 164 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      Looked like right ankle to me. Cards feed gave one replay.

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    153. 165 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ mb21:
      (dying laughing)

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    154. mb21 166 mb21 says:

      Josh Vitters wRC+-ometer: -8

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    155. Suburban kid 167 Suburban kid says:

      There’s too much looking back into the dugout bromantically by guys who get on base these days.

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    156. mb21 168 mb21 says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      Can you believe the nerve of Salas for blowing Carpenter’s comeback victory? (dying laughing)

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    157. josh 169 josh says:

      Sounds like I tuned in just in time to miss a shit game.

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    158. Rice Cube 170 Rice Cube says:

      A’s and Yankees in a hell of a slugfest.

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    159. Aisle424 171 Aisle424 says:

      Reds ——-> NL Central champs

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    160. mb21 172 mb21 says:

      @ Aisle424:
      I thought the Cubs were going to pull it off until this comment.

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    161. Rizzo the Rat 173 Rizzo the Rat says:

      @ mb21:
      Good thing there are 2 Wild Cards this year, or I’d be really worried.

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    162. Rizzo the Rat 174 Rizzo the Rat says:

      Halladay’s ERA ——> 4.40. Not a typo.

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    163. josh 175 josh says:

      @ Rizzo the Rat:
      Personally, I blame Melky Cabrera.

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    164. josh 176 josh says:

      Tried chopping off my thumb tonight. Partial success!!

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    165. Rice Cube 177 Rice Cube says:

      @ josh:
      Hey now, I know Koyie Hill is a legend and all but you don’t have to emulate him so literally…

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    166. josh 178 josh says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      His was doing something dumb like cutting wood. Mine was in the manly pursuit of the perfect sized minced ginger.

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    167. Rice Cube 179 Rice Cube says:

      @ josh:
      By minced ginger are you talking about the root, or yourself?

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    168. Rice Cube 180 Rice Cube says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      But seriously dude, hope you didn’t lose anything important.

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    169. josh 181 josh says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      Not too bad. The ER superglued my thumb. Literally, they coated the tip with superglue. Hell, I could have done that. But this was special medical superglue or something.

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    170. josh 182 josh says:

      I can play my guitar a little still, so I’m good.

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    171. mb21 183 mb21 says:

      That sounds rather painful, Josh.

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    172. Rice Cube 184 Rice Cube says:

      @ josh:
      The regular Krazy Glue does work for cuts but you have to be careful not to let it get into your system. I forgot where I read about the Superglue trick. I also hate when you have to go to the ER and they do something that seems like a no-brainer and then charges you or your insurance a ridiculous sum of money.

      “O RLY?! Well, I could’ve taken Tylenol at home!”

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    173. WaLi 186 WaLi says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      That was awesome

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    174. josh 187 josh says:

      Was it just me or did the Rams guard move on that encroachment penalty?

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    175. Rice Cube 188 Rice Cube says:

      Wood Jr’s first pitch…just a bit outside.

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    176. Rice Cube 189 Rice Cube says:

      Today’s stat Sunday topic is defensive metrics.

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    177. Rizzo the Rat 190 Rizzo the Rat says:

      Cliff Lee’s having a fine year. Too bad he just fell to 6 and 8.

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    178. Rizzo the Rat 191 Rizzo the Rat says:

      Aram continues to gather numbers: 2 more doubles today, bringing his total up to 49.

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    179. 193 Duey23 says:

      Ridiculously late to this game but this is the same guy, chomping on a fucking cobb salad from Bigsby’s while talking to Tony Lasorda on the phone DURING HIS SHOW. He’s such a massive bag of hot air, etc. etc. etc. see all of the above and then some.

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    180. 194 Duey23 says:

      Oh, and as a 12-year season ticket holder, it’s about g-damn time someone in that organization treated it like a business with a real plan and told the “shareholders” the damn truth. We’ve known it all along and most have kept drinking the Kool-Aid (which Chet wants Theo to drink??) with their heads planted firmly up their asses.

      Good, change is good, greed is good and damnit, the future of my decision of buying season tickets was giving Theo a 3-year plan to see improvement and then it’s a 1-year renewable from there forward.

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