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  • If The Sun-Times Were a Decent Newspaper, Gordo Would Likely Be a Pulitzer Candidate

    I know we like to try to convince people that Alfonso Soriano is a better player than people give him credit. We don't like when boos cascade down on him for every single ball that lands in front of him in the outfield that the fat guy on the sofa thinks should have been an easy catch, or when the drunk guy in the bleachers thinks recognizing a slider outside is the easiest thing in the world to do.

    So it is nice to see a positive piece about Soriano in the Sun-Times from Gordon Wittenmyer. The problem is, he's insane. Or an idiot. Or desperately trying to boost traffic to his columns. Probably a combination of the three.  Because no rational human being with even a rudimentary understanding of baseball could ever state with a serious face that Alfonso Soriano is an MVP candidate in the National League. But Gordo does.

    This year’s MVP race in the National League might have tilted his direction if the team wasn’t so bad. The NL West-leading Giants’ top player, Melky Cabrera, was suspended for performance-enhancing drug use, Milwaukee Brewers left fielder Ryan Braun’s big numbers are diminished some by his own team’s losing record, and Matt Kemp and Joey Votto — who got off to big starts for their contending teams — both have missed significant time with injuries. It’s put guys such as the Pittsburgh Pirates’ Andrew McCutchen and the Cincinnati Reds’ Jay Bruce into prominent spots in the discussion.

    Let's forget that Gordo thinks Braun's numbers should be diminished by his team's place in the standings. (Don't look now, but the Brewers and Phillies are are only 5 games out of the Wild Card and charging hard while St. Louis, Pittsburgh, and the Dodgers all struggle.) But even if we were to accept that Braun should be disregarded, and that Kemp and votto need to be eliminated due to injury, what puts Soriano in a league with Andrew McCutchen?  Here are the NL's rWAR leaders as of right now:

    1. Andrew McCutchen (6.4)
    2. David Wright (6.1)
    3. Ryan Braun (6.0)
    4. Michael Bourn (6.0)
    5. Buster Posey (5.8)
    6. Yadier Molina (5.7)
    7. Jason Heyward (5.1)
    8. Chase Headley (4.7)
    9. Joey Votto (4.7)
    10. Giancarlo Stanton (4.7)

    Soriano comes in at #85 at 1.3 rWAR, which ties him with Rafael Furcal and Wilin Rosario.

    If we look at fWAR:

    1. Ryan Braun (7.2)
    2. David Wright (6.6)
    3. Andrew McCutchen (6.5)
    4. Michael Bourn (6.3)
    5. Buster Posey (6.2)
    6. Chase Headley (6.2)
    7. Jason Heyward (6.1)
    8. Aramis Ramirez (5.4)
    9. Yadier Molina (5.4)
    10. Matt Holliday (5.2)

    Fangraphs is kinder to Soriano. He comes in 24th at 3.6 fWAR, bookended by Jimmy Rollins and Jose Reyes.

    If you don't like WAR, he's 7th in the NL in homeruns and tied for 4th in RBI. He is not in the top ten in batting average, on-base percentage, or slugging percentage. He is, however, tied for 3rd in grounding into double plays.

    Soriano isn't even clearly the most valuable player on this shitty team. According to B-Ref, they have Darwin Barney (4.3), Starlin Castro (2.7), and Anthony Rizzo (1.7) above Soriano's 1.3 rWAR.  Hell, David DeJesus is right behind him at 1.2.  Let's start the MVP campaign for Kim DeJesus' hubby!

    Again, Fangraphs likes him more as he does lead the Cubs with Starlin Castro coming in 2nd at 2.7, Barney at 2.3, and Rizzo and DeJesus each at 1.7.

    It's a great season for Soriano. Perhaps he is the Most Valuable Player That Everybody Had Mostly Given Up On As Completely Useless Prior to This Season, but let's have a little perspective.  When you start printing nonsense about how Soriano is an MVP canididate, then stupid people who accept anything you say because it's in the newspaper are going to believe it and they will start to expect him to play like an MVP all over again. Then when he again starts showing his age (as we know he will sooner or later), the disappointment from the dopes will be magnified and he'll get even more unnecessary crap heaped on him from the stands than he does now.

    Is there any editorial process at all at the Sun-Times? I honestly don't know how this got printed without Wittenmyer's colleagues laughing their asses off at him.  Maybe they thought it was his submission to join The Onion writing staff.  

    DeLuca: What have you got today, Gord?

    Wittenmyer: I explain how Soriano could be an MVP candidate if the Cubs were a better team.

    DeLuca: HA HA HA HA HA HA! Great one!  You're hilarious.  What have you got, really?

    Wittenmyer: That is what I've got.

    DeLuca: Well fuck it, it's kind of late. I guess we'll print it.

    Like I said, I'm glad it's at least a positive piece. I guess we just have to take what we can get in that area, however ridiculous it might be.

    82 Responses to “If The Sun-Times Were a Decent Newspaper, Gordo Would Likely Be a Pulitzer Candidate”

    1. Berselius 2 Berselius says:

      Gordo has it all wrong, Adolfo and Samardzija are the Cubs co-MVPs, so they’re going to split the vote.

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    2. 3 Rice in limbo says:

      That was a recent aside video I enjoyed.

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    3. WenningtonsGorillaCock 4 WenningtonsGorillaCock says:

      That video reminded me that Rondell White once played for the Cubs. It also reminded me of Rondell White in general, since I completely forgot he existed.

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    4. Mucker 5 Mucker says:

      How much does the title of the award “Most Valuable Player” have to do with it? Most people assume MVP means best player but some people take it literally. Between MVP and Cy Young, there seems to be too many idiot voters out there that don’t understand how to vote. They should change it to Player of the Year or something because for some reason team success has too much weighting with the voters.

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    5. 6 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Former Playgirl Model Steve Stone, not be outdone, told Mully and Hanley that “the White Sox need to learn to win without Adam Dunn.”

      Dunn has been worth 1.1 WAR.

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    6. 7 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Let’s forget that Gordo thinks Braun’s numbers should be diminished by his team’s place in the standings.

      To be fair, Wittenmyer isn’t say they should be diminished, he’s saying they will be diminished, and in that he’s correct. BBWAA members regularly rationalize not voting for obviously deserving candidates because their team is not in the playoff hunt. Dawson’s MVP was an outlier.

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    7. mb21 8 mb21 says:

      @ Mucker:
      Yeah, I don’t get it either, but this year in the AL Trout has far and away been the best player that I’m confident even the BBWAA won’t get it wrong. It’s just too obvious.

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    8. Suburban kid 9 Suburban kid says:

      Berselius wrote:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      FWIW, McCutchen plays against vastly inferior pitching, and is not as good defensively. He’s still worthy of the NL MVP, though I think it will probably go to someone like Posey, since there’s no way the BBRAA elects Braun again.

      (dying laughing)

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    9. Mucker 10 Mucker says:

      @ mb21:
      Agreed. Trout, along with being one of the best hitters, has also been one of the best baserunners and fielders as well. It shouldn’t even be a debate really.

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    10. mb21 11 mb21 says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder: To be even fairer, if I was voting I'd be more likely to vote for a player on a team that is contending than one that is not. Let's say I've narrowed down the best to 3 players, 2 of which may actually be better but played on last place teams, I'm probably giving it to the other guy. "Best" or "most" is subjective and it seems more than fair to me that a player on a contending team be awarded for something that players on non-contenders aren't. The player on the contender performed in higher leverage situations, for one. He did so on a team that had more to lose. If it's close enough, I'd easily pass on the non-contenders to a contender. If it's obvious, then I wouldn't. Let's say the Angels are in last place. Under no circumstances would I vote for anyone other than Mike Trout. And I would seriously vote for him to win the NL MVP. MLB could fuck off if they didn't like it.

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    11. Berselius 12 Berselius says:

      @ Suburban kid:

      (dying laughing), glad someone caught the reference.

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    12. mb21 13 mb21 says:

      @ Suburban kid:
      I don’t know what berselius meant by bbraa.

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    13. Mucker 14 Mucker says:

      Didn’t ARod win MVP with last place Texas?

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    14. 15 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ mb21:
      I think that’s fair. I just hate the “we can take this guy out of the running right now because his team sucks” argument.

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    15. Aisle424 17 Aisle424 says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      @ mb21:
      The problem with Gordo is that Soriano is nowhere close to the conversation even if the Cubs were winning 100 games.

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    16. Suburban kid 18 Suburban kid says:

      @ mb21:
      I think it’s a reference to sports jernalists who rite good.

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    17. Berselius 19 Berselius says:

      @ mb21:

      A few years ago, when the BBWAA froze out most of the internet writers (in particular Keith Law and Rob Neyer) there were jokes abound that they should be called the Baseball Reporters Association of America instead. Some suggested it should be the Baseball ‘Riters Association instead (dying laughing)

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    18. mb21 20 mb21 says:

      @ Aisle424:
      Yeah, as you said in the article, he’s not even the MVP of this shitty fucking team. (dying laughing)

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    19. Aisle424 21 Aisle424 says:

      Also, I think writers are looking for any reason to not vote for Braun because of the positive PEDs test. Milwaukee could still be the Wild Card (in fact, I’m starting to think they might be with the shitty way everyone else is playing) and he’ll lose votes because of that.

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    20. mb21 22 mb21 says:

      Actually, he might be the MVP of this shitty fucking team, but that says more about the rest of the shitty fucking team than it does Soriano.

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    21. mb21 23 mb21 says:

      @ Aisle424:
      He’ll lose some and has no chance of winning the award, but I think some will still vote for him (especially those in Milwaukee).

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    22. 24 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ Aisle424:
      THIS

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    23. Suburban kid 25 Suburban kid says:

      Amazon.com is an Internet store. It should not be able to vote for Most Valuable Loyalty Scheme.

      eTrade will have to sell stocks for another 60 years if it wants to vote for IPO of the Year.

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    24. josh 26 josh says:

      @ mb21:
      In an article someone posted yesterday, a blogger said he’d take Miguel Cabrera over Trout (?!?!?!?). Seriously, it’s not even close.

      I’d definitely prefer a “Player of the Year.” Maybe there is some logic to a winning team providing more high leverage situations and that, but a player who plays outstanding baseball should be in consideration no matter what his team is doing. And besides, isn’t leverage one of those things you have no control over?

      Oh, I guess I don’t really care. Give it to whoever has the nicest smile.

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    25. 28 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Dusty overusing a pitcher? Can’t be true: http://mlb.sbnation.com/2012/9/11/3315986/reds-worried-about-aroldis-chapman

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    26. mb21 29 mb21 says:

      josh wrote:

      And besides, isn’t leverage one of those things you have no control over?

      Yes, but it’s also why closers are more valuable than other relievers. It’s more difficult to pitch in those situations and the cost of not pitching well is often a loss. Playing well on a contender is valuable and more valuable than playing well on a non-contender. I don’t mind if there are a few relatively equal players that the one on the contender is chosen. I would, but if it’s an obvious best player then you take him regardless of where his team is in the standings.

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    27. mb21 30 mb21 says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      He’s only thrown 67.2 innings. that’s not even close to overuse. I hadn’t looked at his stats recently, but based on the url was expect to find he’d thrown 130 innings at which point I might agree.

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    28. GBTS 31 GBTS says:

      Trout is in the top 25 career WAR for the Angels organization.

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    29. mb21 32 mb21 says:

      Prior to his last 2 outings, Chapman hadn’t allowed a run in 7 appearances. He’d thrown 7 innings, allowed 3 hits, struckout 9 and walked 2. Then you have to go back to June to find when he last allowed a run. In his 30.2 innings prior to his last 2 outings, he allowed 14 hits, 1 freaking run, walked 6 and struckout 56 batters.

      I didn’t read the article, but since when are two appearances the sign of being tired? (dying laughing)

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    30. josh 33 josh says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:

      “The first thing that jumps out is his body”

      I can’t decide if that’s homoerotic or racist.

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    31. GBTS 34 GBTS says:

      josh wrote:

      I can’t decide if that’s homoerotic or racist.

      Can’t it be both?

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    32. josh 35 josh says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:

      Cespedes, who signed with the Oakland Athletics prior to spring training, is four inches shorter, over six years Soler’s senior and came to the UP.SS. major league ready

      Where exactly is the UP.SS.? More to the point, who edits what ESPN puts out there? I think I could do a better job, for much less cost than Y. Cespedes.

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    33. josh 36 josh says:

      Trout could conceivably win MVP, Gold Glove, and ROY. Fuckit, give him the Cy Young too.

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    34. Mish 37 Mish says:

      @ GBTS:
      Homoeracist.

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    35. josh 39 josh says:

      @ GBTS:
      He went on to say “He’s just one of those big guys who looks like he could just jump you in a dark alley with that big bat of his and just really give it to you. And you wouldn’t want to, but you’d have to take revenge on his people, because you can’t let them get out of line. You’d have to go right to his village and just give it to all the biggest men. Just pound them until they learned respect.”

      So you be the judge.

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    36. GBTS 40 GBTS says:

      @ josh:
      I think you’ve discovered a new, very disturbing literary genre.

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    37. WaLi 41 WaLi says:

      @ josh:

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    38. EnricoPallazzo 42 EnricoPallazzo says:

      @ GBTS:
      this is interesting because one of two things happened, either they didn’t know about the moment of silence (which means they are pretty bad at staying on top of shit) or else they did know and deliberately ignored it. if it’s the latter, then that means that someone had the job of choosing content to play during that slot, and they knowingly aired a piece on kris jenner instead of a moment of silence for 9/11. which is interesting.

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    39. GBTS 43 GBTS says:

      @ EnricoPallazzo:
      My brother pointed out that maybe it was a brilliant “fuck you” to the Islamic fundamentalists that we choose to listen to some bitch with fake tits instead of mourn their greatest victory over America.

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    40. josh 44 josh says:

      @ WaLi:
      Believe me, Samuel Johnson gets it.

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    41. 45 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      Shut it down, josh has won the thread.

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    42. josh 46 josh says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      Please, hold your applause until after I’ve scored.

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    43. GBTS 47 GBTS says:

      A quick Google search has revealed extremely little in the realm of racist homoerotica. There’s a void to fill, Josh.

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    44. GBTS 48 GBTS says:

      @ GBTS:
      This is another prime example of why Google should be forced by law to permanently delete someone’s search history if they die unexpectedly or otherwise can’t defend themselves. That last one will definitely require some context. (dying laughing)

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    45. 50 Mercurial Outfielder says:

      @ josh:

      I can’t believe Bears fans are so fucking dumb they are pushing back against this.

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    46. WaLi 51 WaLi says:

      GBTS wrote:

      There’s a void to fill, Josh.

      I think he already wrote about that.

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    47. josh 52 josh says:

      @ GBTS:
      That can’t be right. That’s basically all they wrote in the 18th Century.

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    48. josh 53 josh says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      I thought it was understood you made noise when the other team was trying to call plays to throw them off, but let your team hear their audibles.

      Football fans are the worst.

      so stoked for Thursday.

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    49. WaLi 54 WaLi says:

      @ Mercurial Outfielder:
      Are they really fighting against it? geez…

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    50. GBTS 55 GBTS says:

      @ josh:
      I didn’t know Laurence Sterne was racist.

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    51. WaLi 56 WaLi says:

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      josh wrote:

      I thought it was understood you made noise when the other team was trying to call plays to throw them off, but let your team hear their audibles.

      My understanding is this. When your team is on defense:



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      When your team is on offense:



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      I thought that was common knowledge

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    52. 57 Mercurial Outfielder says:
    53. EnricoPallazzo 58 EnricoPallazzo says:

      GBTS wrote:

      @ EnricoPallazzo:
      My brother pointed out that maybe it was a brilliant “fuck you” to the Islamic fundamentalists that we choose to listen to some bitch with fake tits instead of mourn their greatest victory over America.

      ha, not where i was going with that but i like his theory more.

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    54. GBTS 59 GBTS says:

      josh wrote:

      so stoked for Thursday.

      Hopefully there’s some unseasonable BEAR WEATHER. The Bears are unique in that they play half their games outdoors right next to Lake Michigan.

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    55. Rizzo the Rat 60 Rizzo the Rat says:

      WELL IF BEING DISCHARGED FROM THE HOSPITAL ISNT THE BEST TIME TO ASK ABOUT A THREESOME THEN IM FRESH OUT OF IDEAS— Brandon McCarthy (@BMcCarthy32) September 11, 2012

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    56. Rice Cube 61 Rice Cube says:

      @ Rizzo the Rat:
      His wife’s response was classic :D

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    57. josh 62 josh says:

      The hell did you bastards do to Rizzo!!?!!?

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    58. Rice Cube 63 Rice Cube says:

      @ josh:
      Looks like his leg landed weird on the bag and then he ran into the 1B and launched into the air. I’m glad he was able to walk off on his own.

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    59. josh 64 josh says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      That sucks

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    60. Rice Cube 65 Rice Cube says:

      Two missed calls on that fucked up pickle! Astros get a gift stolen base (dying laughing)

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    61. josh 66 josh says:

      @ Rice Cube:
      I hate it when the umps are fucking pickels when they should be calling the game.

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    62. Rizzo the Rat 68 Rizzo the Rat says:

      Aramis appears to be having the best year of his career.

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    63. Aisle424 69 Aisle424 says:

      Rizzo the Rat wrote:

      Aramis appears to be having the best year of his career.

      False. The Brewers are back in the Wild Card race. Aramis only performs WHEN IT DOESN’T MATTER. There is plenty of documentation on this.

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    64. josh 70 josh says:

      @ Aisle424:
      Unfortunately, he managed to stats-gather when they weren’t in the hunt, so he should taper off now that it’s getting close. He’s already got his career fWAR beat, but I’m confident we’ll still be able to jam whatever happens into the pre-existing narrative.

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    65. Suburban kid 71 Suburban kid says:

      It’s comments like these last two that remind me of innocent times of yore when I first lurked on ACB and thought “what a bunch of idiots and assholes”.

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    66. Mish 72 Mish says:

      Suburban kid wrote:

      “what a bunch of idiots and assholes”.

      I still think this. (dying laughing)

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    67. EnricoPallazzo 73 EnricoPallazzo says:

      Rice Cube wrote:

      @ Rizzo the Rat:
      His wife’s response was classic

      which was?

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    68. Berselius 74 Berselius says:

      Notre Dame ———-> ACC

      Non-football, but they’ll play 5 games a year vs the ACC

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    69. josh 75 josh says:

      @ EnricoPallazzo:
      I looked through the responses and I’m pretty sure it was this one:

      DE Favstar.fm 50★’s ‏@favstar50_de
      @BMcCarthy32 Congrats on your 50★ tweet!

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    70. Mish 76 Mish says:

      @ EnricoPallazzo:
      I think her response was something like “I WILL PUNCH A MAN who had brain surgery” or something to that effect.

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    71. WaLi 78 WaLi says:

      @ Rice in limbo:
      He had a tweet to (I’m assuming a talk show host) that said:
      “People say becaues I have a brain injury that I should tune into your show now”
      (dying laughing)

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    72. Rice Cube 79 Rice Cube says:

      http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/cubs/post/_/id/13487/castro-a-part-of-another-cubs-miscue

      I get why they’re telling Castro to hustle all the way through, but there are a couple things…

      1. Who the hell told Sappelt to go? It certainly wasn’t Pat Listach.

      2. Castro’s picking up his teammate in the on-deck circle or else he would have run hard all the way, I think. He probably should anyway, but the ball is that deep and he’s that fast, he’d make it in easily on a trot.

      I’d blame Sappelt a hell of a lot more than Castro on that one.

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    73. WaLi 81 WaLi says:

      @ josh:
      Ouch. It looked like he landed on his wrist pretty hard. Any news on the injury?

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