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  • How much For a Win?

    I was curious how much a win costs, so I crunched some numbers for last year. I based thin on Cot's contracts information with no idea how accurate that information is, but I figure it's close enough for my purposes.

    team league W L payroll cost/win
    WSN NL 98 64 $92,534,929.00 $944,233.97
    CIN NL 97 65 $87,826,167.00 $905,424.40
    NYY AL 95 67 $209,792,900.00 $2,208,346.32
    SFG NL 94 68 $131,355,298.00 $1,397,396.79
    OAK AL 94 68 $52,873,000.00 $562,478.72
    ATL NL 94 68 $93,529,667.00 $994,996.46
    TEX AL 93 69 $120,836,000.00 $1,299,311.83
    BAL AL 93 69 $84,102,333.00 $904,326.16
    TBR AL 90 72 $63,627,200.00 $706,968.89
    LAA AL 89 73 $151,381,000.00 $1,700,910.11
    DET AL 88 74 $133,475,000.00 $1,516,761.36
    STL NL 88 74 $111,858,500.00 $1,271,119.32
    LAD NL 86 76 $105,419,833.00 $1,225,812.01
    CHW AL 85 77 $97,669,500.00 $1,149,052.94
    MIL NL 83 79 $98,150,833.00 $1,182,540.16
    ARI NL 81 81 $75,417,833.00 $931,084.36
    PHI NL 81 81 $172,093,902.00 $2,124,616.07
    PIT NL 79 83 $51,932,333.00 $657,371.30
    SDP NL 76 86 $55,621,900.00 $731,867.11
    SEA AL 75 87 $84,928,100.00 $1,132,374.67
    NYM NL 74 88 $94,508,822.00 $1,277,146.24
    TOR AL 73 89 $83,739,200.00 $1,147,112.33
    KCR AL 72 90 $64,001,725.00 $888,912.85
    MIA NL 69 93 $101,628,000.00 $1,472,869.57
    BOS AL 69 93 $175,249,119.00 $2,539,842.30
    CLE AL 68 94 $64,430,300.00 $947,504.41
    MIN AL 66 96 $100,435,000.00 $1,521,742.42
    COL NL 64 98 $81,135,571.00 $1,267,743.30
    CHC NL 61 101 $109,316,000.00 $1,792,065.57
    HOU NL 55 107 $60,799,000.00 $1,105,436.36
    Avg   81 81   $1,250,245.61

    So the average was $1.2M, with Oakland easily paying the lowest rate, $0.56M per win, among both playoff makers and others. Pittsburg was the most efficient loser (thank you Andrew McCutchen and cost controlling!) Tampa Bay and San Diego were the next two most efficient losers. The least efficient among winners were the Fuckin' Yanks(R) by a wide margin, with Boston and Philly leading as the least efficient losers (though not as inefficient as the Fuckin' Yanks(R)).

    It might be interesting to look at the 5-year trend as well, but I don't have time at the moment.

    team W WAR PAR WAR efficiency
    WSN 98 50 $80,534,929.00 $1,610,698.58
    CIN 97 49 $75,826,167.00 $1,547,472.80
    NYY 95 47 $197,792,900.00 $4,208,359.57
    SFG 94 46 $119,355,298.00 $2,594,680.39
    OAK 94 46 $40,873,000.00 $888,543.48
    ATL 94 46 $81,529,667.00 $1,772,384.07
    TEX 93 45 $108,836,000.00 $2,418,577.78
    BAL 93 45 $72,102,333.00 $1,602,274.07
    TBR 90 42 $51,627,200.00 $1,229,219.05
    LAA 89 41 $139,381,000.00 $3,399,536.59
    DET 88 40 $121,475,000.00 $3,036,875.00
    STL 88 40 $99,858,500.00 $2,496,462.50
    LAD 86 38 $93,419,833.00 $2,458,416.66
    CHW 85 37 $85,669,500.00 $2,315,391.89
    MIL 83 35 $86,150,833.00 $2,461,452.37
    ARI 81 33 $63,417,833.00 $1,921,752.52
    PHI 81 33 $160,093,902.00 $4,851,330.36
    PIT 79 31 $39,932,333.00 $1,288,139.77
    SDP 76 28 $43,621,900.00 $1,557,925.00
    SEA 75 27 $72,928,100.00 $2,701,040.74
    NYM 74 26 $82,508,822.00 $3,173,416.23
    TOR 73 25 $71,739,200.00 $2,869,568.00
    KCR 72 24 $52,001,725.00 $2,166,738.54
    MIA 69 21 $89,628,000.00 $4,268,000.00
    BOS 69 21 $163,249,119.00 $7,773,767.57
    CLE 68 20 $52,430,300.00 $2,621,515.00
    MIN 66 18 $88,435,000.00 $4,913,055.56
    COL 64 16 $69,135,571.00 $4,320,973.19
    CHC 61 13 $97,316,000.00 $7,485,846.15
    HOU 55 7 $48,799,000.00 $6,971,285.71
    Avg 81     $3,097,489.97

    Taking some liberties with terminology here, "WAR" is simply WINS-48 (what a replacement team might produce) ane PAR is Payroll above Replacement (payroll – $12M, an estimate of what a replacement team might cost). Bean now looks like an even bigger genius, and Sori an even bigger albatross.

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    17 Responses to “How much For a Win?”

    1. 1 Rice on bus says:

      So if you were to do this in terms of WAR$ do you just set the baseline at 48 wins and then see how much it cost to get each win above that baseline?

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    2. EnricoPallazzo 2 EnricoPallazzo says:

      very interesting and yet another method of pointing out how shitty the cubs were in 2012. also a way of finding a silver lining to houston’s awful season.

      i found this earlier today. not sure if it’s real or not but it’s pretty amusing.

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    3. 3 Rice on bus says:

      I think league minimum last season was $480k so that means a full replacement level lineup would be $12mm.

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    4. josh 4 josh says:

      @ Rice on bus:
      For sure, this is a surface analysis borne of boredom.

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    5. josh 5 josh says:

      @ EnricoPallazzo:
      It sure does make Billy Bean look like a fucking genius.

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    6. dmick89 6 dmick89 says:

      @ Rice on bus:
      One thing to remember is that teams are made up of pre-arb players making peanuts, arb players earning well below their market value and free agents paid more than they are worth. A free agent win costs a lot more than the others. Say you’re a 70 win team and have to sign free agents to get to 90. It’s going to cost about $100 million to add those 20 wins.

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    7. josh 7 josh says:

      @ dmick89:
      Yeah, there’s a sharp cost disparity. And teams who think they can contend spend more per FA win. Then there are the albatrosses on the inefficiency side. Bean is really good at managing both.

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    8. josh 8 josh says:

      I’m going to put in an update with RC’s suggested numbers, for sake of argument

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    9. Myles 9 Myles says:

      josh wrote:

      I’m going to put in an update with RC’s suggested numbers, for sake of argument

      I was going to edit the same information in but it said you were editing your post. :)

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    10. Myles 11 Myles says:

      If you use 49 wins/12 million as the baseline, you can see that the two best GM’s in baseball occupy the first two spots:

      OAK 908k per marginal win
      TBR 1259k per marginal win

      Last place?

      BOS 8162k per marginal win

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    11. Berselius 12 Berselius says:

      @ Myles:

      For what it’s worth, I don’t think those Cot’s numbers took into account all the salary obligations that moved from Boston to LA at the deadline.

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    12. josh 13 josh says:

      @ Myles:
      I used 48. Also. Pittsburgh isn’t too far behind Tampa in terms of efficiency, which is surprising to me.

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    13. josh 14 josh says:

      @ Berselius:
      Good point. The situation is fluid. It would be nice if teams released financials as well.

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    14. dmick89 15 dmick89 says:

      @ Berselius:
      Why no comments?

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    15. WaLi 16 WaLi says:

      @ dmick89:
      He doesn’t want the peasants conversing.

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    16. Aisle424 17 Aisle424 says:

      The new shit should have commenting turned on now.

      http://www.obstructedview.net/facepalm/daily-facepalm-3-5-13.html

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