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  1. mb21

    Yeah, I was looking for a good one and then saw this and didn’t look any further. Couldn’t find a better one if I tried all night.

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  2. Berselius

    [quote name=mb21]That first scene between Walter and Skyler was hilarious.[/quote]
    Yeah, I was cracking up through the whole thing too.

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  3. mb21

    [quote name=Berselius]Yeah, I was cracking up through the whole thing too.[/quote]It reminded me of much of the 1st season and many scenes with Walt and Jesse. Speaking of Jesse, he’s fucked up. I doubt he gets killed next week, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he did. He’s a huge risk at this point.

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  4. Berselius

    [quote name=mb21]It reminded me of much of the 1st season and many scenes with Walt and Jesse. Speaking of Jesse, he’s fucked up. I doubt he gets killed next week, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he did. He’s a huge risk at this point.[/quote]
    No kidding. I wonder if Mike isn’t going to try to take him under his wing or something.

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  5. mb21

    I was thinking back to what Esposito said in one of his interviews about how Gus now sees Jesse as the future of the lab. Could be this is setting that up as you suggest. Right now, Jesse doesn’t care though.

    I loved it when he told Mike he wasn’t going to kill that guy. Mike just stood there in disbelief.

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  6. Berselius

    I loved their dinner with Hank and Marie too. Especially the fact that Skyler/Walt didn’t consider that Walter Jr. could make it tougher to stick with their story. He thinks Walt’s gambling addiction is fucking awesome (dying laughing)

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  7. mb21

    I liked the dinner in part because Hank was more like his old self and not the asshole that he’d become after being crippled. I also loved the karaoke video and the look on Walt’s face as Jr and Hank were laughing. My favorite line in the episode was when Walt asked Saul how everything had gone so wrong.

    The man is clueless or blind. Or both.

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  8. Berselius

    [quote name=mb21]I liked the dinner in part because Hank was more like his old self and not the asshole that he’d become after being crippled. I also loved the karaoke video and the look on Walt’s face as Jr and Hank were laughing. My favorite line in the episode was when Walt asked Saul how everything had gone so wrong.

    The man is clueless or blind. Or both.[/quote]
    My favorite Walt moment was when he complained to Saul about how “When did this stop being a business” (dying laughing). Walt is blind.

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  9. Mucker

    So does Hank know it’s Walt? It really seemed to me when Walt was looking through his case, that Hank knows. Yeah he was just fishing when he said that to Walt but I think he knows. I think he knows Walt is full of shit.

    Also, in the beginning with Mike in the truck getting shot at…….I most have missed the explanation but who sent those guys, the cartel?

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  10. mb21

    [quote name=Berselius]My favorite Walt moment was when he complained to Saul about how “When did this stop being a business” (dying laughing). Walt is blind.[/quote]It has never been a business to Walt. Maybe a fucked up business run by people who have no idea what they’re doing, but that’s about it.

    I really liked last night’s show. There were some good moments and it was nice to see the humor back in the show. It was also interesting how it didn’t involve Walt and Jesse. Most of the humor throughout the show has involved those two, but last night it was Walt and Skyler and then Walt and the family. I loved that he stuck to the script and said terribly twice.

    Walt may have more power than he did before, but he’s the same coward he’s always been. We saw that in the first episode when he was pleading for his life with Gus, saw it again as he begged Mike for help in the second episode and then again last night when he did exactly as his wife told him. Really, the only person Walt has power over is Jesse and right now Jesse isn’t allowing him to have it.

    I thought it was interesting how another possible end to the show was introduced last night by Saul. I don’t see how the show ends in any other way than Walt’s death, but Saul knows a guy (who doesn’t Saul know?) who can make them vanish.

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  11. mb21

    [quote name=Muckey]So does Hank know it’s Walt? It really seemed to me when Walt was looking through his case, that Hank knows. Yeah he was just fishing when he said that to Walt but I think he knows. I think he knows Walt is full of shit.

    Also, in the beginning with Mike in the truck getting shot at…….I most have missed the explanation but who sent those guys, the cartel?[/quote]
    I don’t think Hank believes Walt is capable of such a life, though last night was the second time in the series he hinted that Heisenberg was Walt. But I think that’s just Hank. Something will happen before long and Hank will know that Gale wasn’t Heisenberg.

    The cartel is targeting Gus after his actions at the end of last season. That was the first we’d seen of the cartel this season, which I thought we’d see earlier on.

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  12. Dr. Aneus Taint

    [quote name=Muckey]Also, in the beginning with Mike in the truck getting shot at…….I most have missed the explanation but who sent those guys, the cartel?[/quote]
    That was my assumption.

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  13. Berselius

    [quote name=mb21]I don’t think Hank believes Walt is capable of such a life, though last night was the second time in the series he hinted that Heisenberg was Walt. But I think that’s just Hank. Something will happen before long and Hank will know that Gale wasn’t Heisenberg.

    The cartel is targeting Gus after his actions at the end of last season. That was the first we’d seen of the cartel this season, which I thought we’d see earlier on.[/quote]
    Agree on Hank, though I think his law enforcement instincts might be kicking in even though on a conscious level he’d never believe it.

    One of the reviews I saw today mentioned that putting Hank out of work for a while was a calculating move by the writers to give themselves more time before someone suspects Walt, which I think is more or less right. At the same time, this sentiment was coming from the angle that it would make Hank/law enforcement look dumb if they spent all this time trying to figure it out. I don’t think it’s so obvious that they could finger Walt so easily, even with his somewhat tenuous connection to Jesse.

    I don’t know what to make about Jesse’s comments about the fingerprints, since Hank has the hard-on for him and he’s not investigating. I’m too lazy to go back and look to see who touched things but I’m 99% certain that the fingerprints they found were Victor’s.

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  14. Berselius

    [quote name=Dr. Aneus Taint]That was my assumption.[/quote]
    Same here. From what I saw fast-forwarding through the “previously on” they highlighted the Cartel stuff with Gus.

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  15. Berselius

    We didn’t get a good look but it certainly seemed that all Jesse did was knock on the door, shoot Gale, and run.

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  16. Dr. Aneus Taint

    [quote name=Berselius]Same here. From what I saw fast-forwarding through the “previously on” they highlighted the Cartel stuff with Gus.[/quote]
    Well it seemed like just a matter of time before the cartel responded to Gus.

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  17. Dr. Aneus Taint

    [quote name=Berselius]We didn’t get a good look but it certainly seemed that all Jesse did was knock on the door, shoot Gale, and run.[/quote]
    I have it on good authority that Jesse and Gale made a karaoke video of Don’t Go Breakin’ My Heart before the shooting.

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  18. mb21

    Victor’s car was left at Gale’s, he had called him repeatedly to warn him of Jesse coming to kill him. Unless someone picked up Victor’s car, which doesn’t seem possible considering he started cooking meth shortly after they arrived a that lab, the police had to find the care there. Victor would presumably have a record. Even if Jesse’s fingerprints are there, the evidence points to Victor. He was the only one seen at his house, he called repeatedly, his car is still there.

    Then the police have to wonder what the fuck happened and why his care is there. If Jesse’s fingerprints are at the scene, I think the police will think it indicates he had something to do with Vic’s disappearance.

    I don’t know. Just making shit up at this point.

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  19. Berselius

    Something will happen before long and Hank will know that Gale wasn’t Heisenberg.

    Nothing has to happen for this – the same blue meth just has to keep turning up on the streets.

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  20. Mucker

    I can’t wait to see what angle they take with Hank and Walt. I don’t think there is any way that Hank doesn’t figure out that it’s Walt. Hank seems to be very good at his job and you could sort of sense that he doesn’t really think Gale was Heisenberg. Last night’s episode got me hooked into the season. Great episode.

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  21. Mucker

    [quote name=Berselius]Nothing has to happen for this – the same blue meth just has to keep turning up on the streets.[/quote]Good point. At what point does Mike get involved? Anybody think Mike kills Hank for getting too close? Think Jesse tells Mike on their trip about Hank and being Walt’s brother-in-law? Or do they already know?

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  22. Dr. Aneus Taint

    I’ve been waiting for the scene between Hank and WW since they showed the lab notes in the premiere. Surprised it happened so soon, but it was just as I’d hoped.

    Cranston might have won another Emmy from that scene alone.

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  23. Mucker

    [quote name=Dr. Aneus Taint]I’ve been waiting for the scene between Hank and WW since they showed the lab notes in the premiere. Surprised it happened so soon, but it was just as I’d hoped.

    Cranston might have won another Emmy from that scene alone.[/quote]Cranston is outstanding. He’s in a new movie coming out called “Contagion” with Matt Damon and Gwyneth Paltrow. Looks like “Outbreak” a little bit.

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  24. Dr. Aneus Taint

    [quote name=Dr. Aneus Taint]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMzqiGG5Udg[/quote]
    I like the part when they mess up.

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  25. Berselius

    It’s too bad Saul couldn’t show this gif to Walt when he complained about it not being a business

    (dying laughing)

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  26. Dr. Aneus Taint

    [quote name=Berselius]

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    Was that the time your mother took a shit in the toilet above the set?

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  27. Mucker

    On a somewhat related note, I watched Under Seige 2 this past weekend and was pleasantly surprised to see Mike as a mercenary turned train conductor. (dying laughing)

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  28. bubblesdachimp

    jesse is fucked. i cant see them killing him next episode but he is not long for this world.

    i am starting to think that eventually walter is just going to turn himself in. The weird thing about this shit right now is that they havemt put a move on his family yet to freak him out.

    Good episode.

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  29. Berselius

    [quote name=bubblesdachimp]

    i am starting to think that eventually walter is just going to turn himself in. The weird thing about this shit right now is that they havemt put a move on his family yet to freak him out.

    .[/quote]
    I’m amazed that this hasn’t seemed to cross Walt or Skyler’s minds yet

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  30. bubblesdachimp

    [quote name=Berselius]I’m amazed that this hasn’t seemed to cross Walt or Skyler’s minds yet[/quote]
    its either sloppy writing or its gonna be a serious fucking thing when it happens. i mean it has to happen right?

    (dying laughing)

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  31. mb21

    [quote name=Berselius]I’m amazed that this hasn’t seemed to cross Walt or Skyler’s minds yet[/quote]Skyler is oblivious to the dangers of Walt’s job. Walt is the one person who can cook the meth that Gus needs and fucking with his family is probably the last straw. Walt could fuck up an entire batch on purpose pissing off everyone who Gus deals with. Gus would be even more isolated than he is right now.

    I don’t think Gus can take the change. If Gus decides to go after Walt, he will go after the family, but not until he knows someone can do the cook.

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  32. bubblesdachimp

    How hard can it to cook this shit? Walt is a high school chemistry teacher. He isnt exactly oppenheimer?

    (dying laughing)
    (dying laughing)

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  33. Berselius

    [quote name=bubblesdachimp]How hard can it to cook this shit? Walt is a high school chemistry teacher. He isnt exactly oppenheimer?

    (dying laughing)
    (dying laughing)[/quote]
    Yeah, but how do you recruit one? It’s not like you can just go up to random chemists and say “Hey, you wanna cook meth? I can pay good money”

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  34. Dr. Aneus Taint

    [quote name=bubblesdachimp]How hard can it to cook this shit? Walt is a high school chemistry teacher. He isnt exactly oppenheimer?

    (dying laughing)
    (dying laughing)[/quote]
    They made a point to tell us in previous seasons that Walt is significantly overqualified for his teaching job.

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  35. mb21

    [quote name=Dr. Aneus Taint]They made a point to tell us in previous seasons that Walt is significantly overqualified for his teaching job.[/quote]Exactly. They’ve also made a point to tell us that not only was he overqualified, he was a damn good chemist. Like berselius says, it’s not just about finding someone to cook it, you have to find someone willing to do so.

    Gale was a chemist and all he could get was 96%.

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  36. mb21

    The other thing to consider is that Gus wants the best cooking the meth. He hired Walt against his own wishes because he wanted the best. He killed Victor in part because he saw him using his lab to cook what would have been inferior product.

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  37. mb21

    [quote name=Berselius]Yeah, but how do you recruit one? It’s not like you can just go up to random chemists and say “Hey, you wanna cook meth? I can pay good money”[/quote]If Walt had become the successful chemist he’d wanted to become, none of this happens. If Walt didn’t have cancer, he doesn’t get into this in the first place. So yeah, finding a chemist who is a) willing and b) as good as Gus requires is like Jesse said at the end of the first episode this season: good luck with that. He spent a long time searching for someone like Gale and now he’s dead.

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  38. Berselius

    [quote name=mb21]Exactly. They’ve also made a point to tell us that not only was he overqualified, he was a damn good chemist. Like berselius says, it’s not just about finding someone to cook it, you have to find someone willing to do so.

    Gale was a chemist and all he could get was 96%.[/quote]
    FWIW, there has to be a tipping point for Gus at some point, where Walt’s antics aren’t worth the market advantage his meth provides. At some point dealing with Walt’s bullshit is going to be too much compared to the dropoff between his meth and some random dude following a recipe. We just haven’t reached that point yet.

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  39. mb21

    I think if Gus can convince Jesse to clean up his act and be prepared to take over the lab then we’re going to see Walt’s job security lessened.

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  40. mb21

    i don’t know if there’s a tipping point that would allow Gus to make less pure product. Gus is making a certain amount of money selling that blue meth and if his product is worse, he’ll have to sell it for MUCH less than he was selling the blue stuff for. His profit will go way down. I’m sure there’s a point as you say, but I think we’re a long way from that.

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  41. Berselius

    [quote name=mb21]I think if Gus can convince Jesse to clean up his act and be prepared to take over the lab then we’re going to see Walt’s job security lessened.[/quote]
    Oh, indeed. I don’t know how they can clean him up at this point though, and still have him handle all of those drugs.

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  42. Mucker

    [quote name=mb21]I think if Gus can convince Jesse to clean up his act and be prepared to take over the lab then we’re going to see Walt’s job security lessened.[/quote]I think this is Gus’ plan. But I think Jesse doesn’t allow that to happen. Remember, Walt saved Jesse’s life. I think deep down Jesse considers Walt more than just his cooking pal. I think Jesse plays along with Gus’ plan and then does something that will blow people away. Maybe Jesse gets in good with Gus and when Gus goes to kill Walt, Jesse kills Gus.

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  43. mb21

    Ryno has been saying the same thing about Jesse killing Gus. I guess I don’t see how that happens. I think Walt has to kill him.

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  44. bubblesdachimp

    I want a backstory on the guy who survived the million bullets to the truck in this episode and then got out killed the people..

    When they showed his ear it was one of the more disgusting things i think i have ever seen..

    And by backstory i mean why he is so loyal to gus. he comes off as a mercenary and mercenaries dont have loyalty to anything but $$$

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  45. mb21

    I don’t know, bubbles, but Walt is going to test that loyalty again. I think he needs Mike on his side if he wants to get rid of Gus. I don’t think he has a chance without Mike.

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  46. Berselius

    When they showed his ear it was one of the more disgusting things i think i have ever seen..

    I don’t know if it’s even top 5 for this show (dying laughing). At the very least the two acid baths and the box cutter are worse.

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  47. Berselius

    And by backstory i mean why he is so loyal to gus. he comes off as a mercenary and mercenaries dont have loyalty to anything but $$$

    Money helps, but so does job security. Gus is much better at running a criminal enterprise than Walt.

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  48. mb22

    [quote name=Berselius]I don’t know if it’s even top 5 for this show (dying laughing). At the very least the two acid baths and the box cutter are worse.[/quote]Tuco beating the shit out of the one guy until he was dead was the most brutal scene of the show in my opinion. Mike’s ear was more funny than anything else. A couple of the beatings Jesse took were tough to watch too. I find those much more difficult to watch than anything else in the show. Gus slitting Victor’s throat didn’t gross me out. I just thought the intensity of that scene without Gus saying a damn word was amazing. Watching Walt go from tough guy, bad ass to pussy was equally amazing. Watching Jesse sit there and do absolutely nothing and then finally wake up was also amazing. The look on Mike’s face. Great scene.

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  49. bubblesdachimp

    I was reading on another board they think jesses head being shaven is significant in that they feel like it means he is on the path to death ala walts shaved head when he found out about the cancer.

    Thoughts?

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  50. Berselius

    [quote name=bubblesdachimp]I was reading on another board they think jesses head being shaven is significant in that they feel like it means he is on the path to death ala walts shaved head when he found out about the cancer.

    Thoughts?[/quote]
    No.

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